is is this what the speaker of the house john boehner is talking about. he offered president obama, we'll close the tax loop holes. is that what he's talking about? >> that's what he's talking about . they will save a lot of money. but when we hear information like this, it is tough for people to get perspective and understand what is going to take place . we hear head leans and think close tax loop holes and they are confusing. but the american people needs to know, if loop holes will close. it is not just google. it is amazon and general electric. all of these companies use the loop holes because they are judged on profitability. we'll continue to see this unless we change. >> gretchen: these universitis and companis and have given to different administrations. this is the obama 2012 campaign. university of the california a million. microsoft 761,000 . google 737,000. et cetera and what do they get in return, ed, for giving that money. >> they usually get to bring attention to this andcontinue to do it in a vacume. the president could say . we have a pr